Porsche Taycan recalls

45 official safety recalls for the Porsche Taycan from NHTSA (United States), DVSA (United Kingdom) and the EU Safety Gate, newest first. Recall repairs are normally free at the maker’s dealers.

Whether your car is affected and still needs the repair depends on its VIN or registration. Check it on the official site for your country:

  1. Front seat wiring harness may be damaged

    Reported January 16, 2026Model years 2024–2025DVSA recall R/2026/01534 vehicles affected

    The front seat wiring harness may be incorrectly installed and could be damaged as the seat is adjusted over the vehicle’s lifetime. The installation will be checked and reworked if necessary.

    Official DVSA recall text
    Component
    ASB1 Recall campaign - Check wiring harness of the front seats and rework if necessary
    Defect
    For affected vehicles there is a possibility that the wiring harness for the front seats has not been installed in accordance with specifications and the harness may be damaged by seat adjustment over the lifetime of the vehicle.
    Remedy
    To prevent this the installation of the affected wiring harness is to be checked and if necessary reworked.

  2. Rearview camera image may not display in reverse

    Reported December 19, 2025Model years 2020–2025NHTSA campaign 25V896000172,107 vehicles affected

    The rearview camera image may not appear when reverse is selected, reducing the driver's view behind the vehicle and increasing crash risk. Dealers will update the driver assistance software free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    BACK OVER PREVENTION: SENSING SYSTEM: CAMERA
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2019-2025 Cayenne, Cayenne E-Hybrid, 2020-2025 911, Taycan, 2024-2025 Panamera, and 2025 Panamera E-Hybrid vehicles. The rearview camera image may not display when the vehicle is placed in reverse. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) number 111, "Rear Visibility."
    Consequence
    A rearview image that does not display properly reduces the driver's view behind the vehicle, increasing the risk of a crash.
    Remedy
    Dealers will update the driver assistance software, free of charge. Owner notification letters were mailed February 13, 2026. Owners may contact Porsche customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is ASB2. Vehicle Identification Numbers (VINs) involved in this recall will be searchable on NHTSA.gov beginning January 19, 2026.

  3. Suspension strut retaining ring may come loose

    Reported July 15, 2025Model years 2025NHTSA campaign 25V415000284 vehicles affected

    A retaining ring on top of the suspension strut may come loose, dislodging the strut and allowing air to escape from its spring. This may reduce vehicle handling and control, increasing crash risk. Dealers will inspect and reinstall the ring as necessary, free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    SUSPENSION:FRONT:MACPHERSON STRUT
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2025 Panamera E-hybrid, Taycan, and Panamera vehicles. A retaining ring on top of the suspension strut may come loose, resulting in a dislodged strut and air loss from the strut spring.
    Consequence
    An air suspension strut failure may cause a loss of vehicle handling and control, increasing the risk of a crash.
    Remedy
    Dealers will inspect the retaining ring and reinstall it as necessary, free of charge. Owner notification letters were mailed August 15, 2025. Owners may contact Porsche's customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is ASA6.

  4. Front air-spring locking ring may loosen

    Reported July 8, 2025Model years 2024–2025DVSA recall R/2025/264171 vehicles affected

    A front air-spring strut locking ring may be incorrectly fitted and loosen, allowing air to escape. This can impair driving and increase accident risk. The rings will be checked and reworked as needed.

    Official DVSA recall text
    Component
    ASA6 - Check the air suspension strut on the front axle and rework if necessary
    Defect
    There is a possibility that a locking ring on the air-spring strut at the front left and right was not fitted according to specifications on the affected vehicles. If this is the case the locking ring on the upper side of the respective spring strut can loosen and air can thus escape from the air spring. As a result the driving characteristics may be impaired which increases the risk of an accident.
    Remedy
    The locking ring on the air-spring strut at the front left and right must be checked and reworked depending on the test result

  5. Occupant classification error may deactivate passenger airbag

    Reported May 5, 2025Model years 2022–2023NHTSA campaign 25V2210009,735 vehicles affected

    An occupant classification system error may deactivate the front passenger airbag, increasing the risk of injury if it does not deploy in a crash. Dealers will replace the front passenger seat cushion, free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    AIR BAGS:SENSOR:OCCUPANT CLASSIFICATION:FRONT PASSENGER
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2022-2023 Taycan vehicles. An occupant classification system error may deactivate the front passenger air bag.
    Consequence
    An air bag that fails to deploy during a crash increases the risk of injury.
    Remedy
    Dealers will replace the front passenger seat cushion, free of charge. Owner notification letters were mailed November 24, 2025. Owners may contact Porsche customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is ASA2.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1- 888-275-9171) or go to www.safercar.gov.

  6. Battery modules may short circuit and cause a fire

    Reported November 11, 2024Model years 2019–2024DVSA recall R/2024/4547,916 vehicles affected

    A short circuit in the battery modules cannot be ruled out and could cause a thermal event and later a vehicle fire. The battery modules will be replaced and the on-board diagnostic software installed.

    Official DVSA recall text
    Component
    ARB6 recall campaign – Checking HVB cell modules and re-programming BMCe software
    Defect
    A short circuit within the battery modules during the vehicle’s service life cannot be ruled out under certain circumstances which could lead to thermal events and later to a fire in the vehicle.
    Remedy
    On the affected vehicles the battery modules must be replaced and the on-board diagnostic software (BMCe control unit) will be installed.

  7. Battery module short circuit may cause fire

    Reported October 16, 2024Model years 2019–2023DVSA recall R/2024/407288 vehicles affected

    A short circuit in a battery module may cause a thermal event or fire. The affected high-voltage battery module will be replaced.

    Official DVSA recall text
    Component
    ARB5 Recall Campaign - Replacing cell block module on high-voltage battery.
    Defect
    On affected vehicles production issues may have occurred at the battery cell / module supplier. A short circuit within the battery modules leading to thermal events and fires cannot be ruled out.
    Remedy
    Replace the affected battery module on the high-volt battery.

  8. High-voltage battery module may short circuit

    Reported October 1, 2024Model years 2020–2024NHTSA campaign 24V73200027,527 vehicles affected

    A battery module may short circuit, increasing fire risk. Owners may be advised to limit charging to 80% until repair. Dealers will install diagnostic software and, if needed, test or replace battery modules free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:PROPULSION SYSTEM:TRACTION BATTERY
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2021-2024 Taycan vehicles. The high-voltage battery may experience a short circuit within the battery module.
    Consequence
    A short circuit in a high-voltage battery increases the risk of a fire.
    Remedy
    Dealers will install advanced diagnostic software as the final remedy, anticipated to be available in the first quarter of 2025. Porsche will monitor available online vehicle data and contact owners as necessary, to advise them to only charge the vehicle to 80% capacity until the battery can be replaced. For vehicles in which online data is unavailable, dealers will perform a diagnostic test and replace the battery module assembly, if necessary and advise owners to only charge to 80% capacity. Repairs will be performed free of charge. Owner notification letters were mailed August 6, 2025. Owners may contact Porsche customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's numbers for this recall are ARB6 and ARB7. This recall expands and replaces previous recall numbers 23V-840, 24V-215, and 24V-217.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153) or go to www.nhtsa.gov.

  9. High-voltage battery module may short circuit

    Reported October 1, 2024Model years 2020–2023NHTSA campaign 24V731000193 vehicles affected

    A battery module may short circuit, increasing fire risk. Owners are advised to charge to no more than 80% until repaired. Dealers will replace affected battery modules free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:PROPULSION SYSTEM:TRACTION BATTERY
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2020-2023 Taycan vehicles. The high-voltage battery may experience a short circuit within the battery module.
    Consequence
    A short circuit in a high-voltage battery increases the risk of a fire.
    Remedy
    Owners are advised to only charge their vehicles to a maximum of 80% battery capacity until the repair has been completed. Dealers will replace the affected modules in the high-voltage battery, free of charge. Owner notification letters were mailed November 22, 2024. Owners may contact Porsche customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is ARB5. This recall expands previous recall numbers 23V-840, 24V-215, and 24V-217. Vehicles previously repaired under the prior recalls will need to have the new remedy completed.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153) or go to www.nhtsa.gov.

  10. Rearview camera image may not appear immediately

    Reported October 1, 2024Model years 2025NHTSA campaign 24V730000183 vehicles affected

    The rearview image may not display immediately when shifting into reverse, reducing the driver's rear view and increasing crash risk. Dealers will update the central computer software free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    BACK OVER PREVENTION: SENSING SYSTEM: CAMERA
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2025 Taycan vehicles. The rearview image may not immediately display when the vehicle is shifted into reverse. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard number 111, "Rear Visibility."
    Consequence
    A delayed rearview camera image reduces the driver's rear view, increasing the risk of a crash.
    Remedy
    Dealers will update the central computer software, free of charge. Owner notification letters were mailed on December 23, 2024. Owners may contact Porsche customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is ARB8.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153) or go to www.nhtsa.gov.

  11. Incorrect headlight software may affect parking lights

    Reported September 5, 2024Model years 2024NHTSA campaign 24V654000954 vehicles affected

    Incorrect headlight control module software may prevent the parking lights from working as intended when the turn signals are activated, reducing visibility and increasing crash risk. Dealers will update the software free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    EXTERIOR LIGHTING:LIGHTING CONTROL MODULE:SOFTWARE
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2024 Taycan vehicles. The incorrect headlight control module software may have been installed. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard number 108, "Lamps, Reflective Devices, and Associated Equipment."
    Consequence
    Incorrect headlight control module software may cause the parking lights not to operate as intended when the turn signals are activated, which can reduce vehicle visibility and increase the risk of a crash.
    Remedy
    Dealers will update the headlight control module software, free of charge. Owner notification letters were mailed October 25, 2024. Owners may contact Porsche customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is ARB4.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.

  12. Rear seat belts may not be routed correctly

    Reported July 31, 2024Model years 2024DVSA recall R/2024/2979 vehicles affected

    The rear three-point seat belts may be fitted incorrectly, so their restraint function may not be assured during full braking or a crash. Their routing will be checked and corrected if needed.

    Official DVSA recall text
    Component
    ARB3 – Checking position of rear three-point seat belt and reworking if necessary
    Defect
    On affected vehicles it is possible that the three-point belts of the rear seat belt system were not fitted according to the specifications. If this is the case the restraint function for passengers in the rear left and right seats is not guaranteed in the event of full braking or an accident.
    Remedy
    Check routing of the belt straps of the rear three-point belts and correct routing depending on the check result.

  13. Front brake hoses may fatigue and fail

    Reported July 3, 2024Model years 2019–2024DVSA recall R/2024/26721,548 vehicles affected

    The front brake hoses may have too small a bending radius, which can cause material fatigue and hose failure over time under certain conditions. The front axle brake hoses will be replaced.

    Official DVSA recall text
    Component
    ARB0 - Replacing brake hose on the left and right front axle
    Defect
    On affected vehicles brake hoses were installed on the left and right of the front axle that were designed with too small a bending radius. Over time and under certain conditions this can lead to material fatigue and a defect in the brake hose.
    Remedy
    Replace the front axle brake hoses.

  14. Front brake hoses may crack and leak

    Reported June 19, 2024Model years 2020–2025NHTSA campaign 24V45500031,689 vehicles affected

    The front brake hoses may crack and leak fluid, reducing braking performance and extending stopping distance. Dealers will replace the front brake hoses free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:FOUNDATION COMPONENTS:HOSES, LINES/PIPING, AND FITTINGS
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2020-2025 Taycan vehicles. The front brake hoses can develop cracks and leak brake fluid.
    Consequence
    A brake fluid leak can reduce braking performance and extend the distance required to stop, increasing the risk of a crash.
    Remedy
    Dealers will replace the front brake hoses, free of charge. Owner notification letters were mailed on January 29, 2025. Owners may contact Porsche customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is ARB0.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.

  15. High-voltage battery modules may short circuit

    Reported April 8, 2024Model years 2018–2024DVSA recall R/2024/204124 vehicles affected

    Production issues in battery cells or modules could lead to a short circuit, thermal events or fire. Affected modules in the high-voltage battery will be replaced.

    Official DVSA recall text
    Component
    ARA5 - Checking high-voltage battery and replacing cell block module if necessary
    Defect
    On affected vehicles production issues may have occurred at the battery cell/battery module supplier. If this is the case a short circuit within the battery modules leading to possible thermal events and fires cannot be ruled out.
    Remedy
    Replace affected battery modules in the high-volt battery.

  16. High-voltage battery modules may short circuit

    Reported April 5, 2024Model years 2019–2023DVSA recall R/2024/186286 vehicles affected

    A supplier production issue may cause a short circuit in battery modules, with possible thermal events and fires. Affected high-voltage battery modules will be replaced.

    Official DVSA recall text
    Component
    ARA4 Recall Campaign - Replacing cell block module on high-voltage battery.
    Defect
    On affected vehicles production issues may have occurred at the battery cell/battery module supplier. If this is the case a short circuit within the battery modules leading to possible thermal events and fires cannot be ruled out.
    Remedy
    Replace affected battery modules in the high-volt battery.

  17. High-voltage battery modules may short circuit

    Reported March 20, 2024Model years 2020–2024NHTSA campaign 24V217000749 vehicles affected

    A short circuit within the high-voltage battery modules can increase the risk of fire. Charge the vehicle to no more than 80% until repaired. Dealers will analyze the battery data and replace modules as necessary, free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:PROPULSION SYSTEM:TRACTION BATTERY
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2021-2024 Taycan, 2020-2024 Taycan 4S, Taycan Turbo, 2021-2023 Taycan 4 Cross Turismo, 2022-2023 Taycan 4S Cross Turismo, Taycan Turbo S Cross Turismo, 2023 Taycan Turbo Cross Turismo, 2022-2024 Taycan GTS, Taycan GTS Sport Turismo, and 2020-2023 Taycan Turbo S vehicles. The high-voltage battery may experience a short circuit within the battery modules.
    Consequence
    A short circuit in the battery increases the risk of a fire.
    Remedy
    Owners are advised to only charge their vehicles to a maximum of 80% battery capacity until the repair has been completed. Dealers will analyze the battery data and replace the high-voltage battery modules as necessary, free of charge. Owner notification letters were mailed on October 9, 2024. Owners may contact Porsche customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is ARA5.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.

  18. High-voltage battery modules may short circuit

    Reported March 20, 2024Model years 2020–2023NHTSA campaign 24V215000606 vehicles affected

    A short circuit within the high-voltage battery modules can increase the risk of fire. Charge the vehicle to no more than 80% until repaired. Dealers will replace the affected modules free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:PROPULSION SYSTEM:TRACTION BATTERY
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2021-2023 Taycan, Taycan 4 Cross Turismo, 2020-2023 Taycan 4S, Taycan Turbo S, 2021-2022 Taycan 4S Cross Turismo, 2022 Taycan Turbo S Cross Turismo, 2022-2023 Taycan GTS, 2023 Taycan GTS Sport Turismo, and 2020-2021 Taycan Turbo vehicles. The high-voltage battery may experience a short circuit within the battery modules.
    Consequence
    A short circuit in the battery increases the risk of a fire.
    Remedy
    Owners are advised to only charge their vehicles to a maximum of 80% battery capacity until the repair has been completed. Dealers will replace the affected modules in the high-voltage battery, free of charge. Owner notification letters were mailed on October 8, 2024. Owners may contact Porsche customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is ARA4.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.

  19. High-voltage battery may short circuit and catch fire

    Reported March 7, 2024Model years 2020–2023DVSA recall R/2024/118193 vehicles affected

    A short circuit may occur in the high-voltage battery and cause the vehicle to catch fire. The high-voltage battery will be replaced.

    Official DVSA recall text
    Component
    APB5 Recall Campaign - Replacing cell block module on high-voltage battery
    Defect
    On affected vehicles a short circuit within the high-voltage battery can occur subsequently causing the vehicle to catch fire.
    Remedy
    Replace the high voltage battery

  20. Charging cable or outlet may overheat

    Reported December 13, 2023Model years 2020–2024NHTSA campaign 23V84100041,345 vehicles affected

    When using the 220V/240V plug at the 100% charge setting, some home outlets may not handle the required current, causing the outlet or charging cable to overheat and increasing fire risk. Do not use the 220V/240V portable cable; use the 110V cable or public charging stations. Dealers will provide a replacement 220V/240V cable with a temperature sensor free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:PROPULSION SYSTEM:CHARGING:CABLE/CORD:ONBOARD
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling various models and model years. Please see the recall report for a list of the included vehicles. When using the industrial 220V/240V plug at the 100% charge setting, some home power outlets may be incapable of handling the electrical current required to utilize the compact charging system, causing the outlet or charging cable to overheat.
    Consequence
    An overheated outlet or charging cable can increase the risk of a fire.
    Remedy
    Owners are advised not to use the 220V/240V compact/portable charging cable and only use the 110V home charging cable or public charging stations. Dealers will supply a new 220V/240V compact/portable charging cable with an incorporated temperature sensor, free of charge. Owner notification letters were mailed on October 24, 2024. A second notice will be sent once remedy parts become available, anticipated mid-2024. Owners may contact Porsche customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is APB6.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.

  21. High-voltage battery may short circuit

    Reported December 13, 2023Model years 2021–2023NHTSA campaign 23V840000205 vehicles affected

    A short circuit may occur within the high-voltage battery modules, increasing the risk of fire. Dealers will inspect and repair the battery, replacing modules as necessary, free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:PROPULSION SYSTEM:TRACTION BATTERY
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2021-2023 Porsche Taycan, 2021-2022 Taycan 4S, Taycan Turbo S, Taycan Turbo, Taycan 4 Cross Turismo, Taycan 4S Cross Turismo, Taycan Turbo Cross Turismo, 2022 Taycan GTS, and Taycan GTS Sport Turismo vehicles. The high-voltage battery may experience a short circuit within the battery modules.
    Consequence
    A short circuit in the battery increases the risk of a fire.
    Remedy
    Dealers will inspect and repair the high-voltage battery by replacing modules as necessary, free of charge Owner notification letters were mailed on June 14, 2024. Owners may contact Porsche customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is APB5.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.

  22. Liquid may enter the high-voltage battery

    Reported September 15, 2023Model years 2022–2023DVSA recall R/2023/2724,755 vehicles affected

    Insufficient sealing may allow liquid into the high-voltage battery. The battery will be checked for leaks and replaced if necessary.

    Official DVSA recall text
    Component
    On affected vehicles due to insufficient sealing under certain circumstances liquid can enter the interior of the high-voltage battery.
    Defect
    On affected vehicles due to insufficient sealing under certain circumstances liquid can enter the interior of the high-voltage battery.�
    Remedy
    Check the battery for leaks and replace if necessary.

  23. Insufficient battery sealant may allow liquid to accumulate

    Reported September 1, 2023Model years 2023NHTSA campaign 23V6150004,777 vehicles affected

    Insufficient sealant may allow liquid to accumulate in the high-voltage battery, causing electrical arcing and increasing the risk of fire. Dealers will test for leakage and replace the battery as needed, free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:PROPULSION SYSTEM:TRACTION BATTERY
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2023 Taycan, Taycan 4S, Taycan Turbo S, Taycan Turbo, Taycan GTS, Taycan 4 Cross Turismo, Taycan 4S Cross Turismo, Taycan Turbo S Cross Turismo, Taycan Turbo Cross Turismo, and Taycan GTS Sport Turismo vehicles. The high-voltage battery may have an insufficient amount of sealant, which can allow liquid to accumulate in the battery.
    Consequence
    Liquid accumulation in the high voltage battery can cause electrical arcing, increasing the risk of a fire.
    Remedy
    Dealers will test the battery for leakage and replace the battery as necessary, free of charge. Owner notification letters are expected to be mailed October 31, 2023. Owners may contact Porsche's customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is APB2.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.

  24. Body connection points may be missing welds

    Reported May 17, 2023Model years 2019–2022DVSA recall R/2023/1551 vehicle affected

    A production error may have left some welds or other body connection points incomplete. Check the connection points and correct them to specification if needed.

    Official DVSA recall text
    Component
    On affected vehicles due to a process error in the car body production line it is possible certain welding and other particular connection points were not executed.
    Defect
    On affected vehicles due to a process error in the car body production line it is possible certain welding and other particular connection points were not executed.
    Remedy
    Check the connection points on the body and if necessary remedy to specification.

  25. Brake pad warning may show incorrect indicator

    Reported May 16, 2023Model years 2020–2022NHTSA campaign 23V34700071 vehicles affected

    The instrument cluster may display a worn brake pad warning with the wrong indicator and colour. Drivers may misinterpret it and continue driving with reduced brake performance, increasing crash risk. Dealers will update the instrument cluster software free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    ELECTRICAL SYSTEM: INSTRUMENT CLUSTER/PANEL
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2020-2022 Taycan vehicles. An incorrect warning indicator with an incorrect color is displayed in the instrument cluster when notifying owners of worn brake pads. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard numbers 135, "Light Vehicle Brake Systems," and 101, "Control and Displays."
    Consequence
    An incorrect warning indicator may be misinterpreted and result in driving on worn brake pads with reduced brake performance, increasing the risk of a crash.
    Remedy
    Dealers will update the software for the instrument cluster, free of charge. Owner notification letters are expected to be mailed July 14, 2023. Owners may contact Porsche's customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is APA5.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.

  26. Vehicle body may have missing welds

    Reported May 3, 2023Model years 2021NHTSA campaign 23V3130003 vehicles affected

    A production process error may leave welds missing from the body. In a crash, the body may not adequately protect occupants, increasing injury risk. Dealers will inspect and repair the welds as needed, free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    STRUCTURE:BODY
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2020 911 Carrera S, 2021 Taycan Turbo, and 2022 911 Carrera vehicles. Due to a process error in the car body production line, various welds may be missing from the vehicle body.
    Consequence
    In the event of a crash, incomplete body welding may not provide adequate protection to occupants, increasing the risk of injury.
    Remedy
    Dealers will inspect and repair the welds, as necessary, free of charge. Owner notification letters are expected to be mailed June 30, 2023. Owners may contact Porsche's customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is APA4.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.

  27. Seat belt warning light and chime may not activate

    Reported March 17, 2023Model years 2020–2023NHTSA campaign 23V176000130 vehicles affected

    With an unbelted passenger, the warning light and chime may not activate as intended, so the passenger may not be alerted to buckle up, increasing injury risk in a crash. Dealers will update the instrument cluster software free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    ELECTRICAL SYSTEM: INSTRUMENT CLUSTER/PANEL
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2020 Taycan Turbo, 2021 Taycan, Taycan 4S Cross Turismo, 2022 Taycan, Taycan Turbo, Taycan GTS, Taycan 4 Cross Turismo, Taycan 4S Cross Turismo, 2020-2022 Taycan 4S and Taycan Turbo S, and 2023 Taycan vehicles. When there is an unbelted passenger, the seat belt warning light and audible chime will not activate as intended. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard number 208, "Occupant Crash Protection."
    Consequence
    A malfunctioning seat belt warning system may not alert the passenger to buckle their seat belt, increasing the risk of injury in the event of a crash.
    Remedy
    Dealers will update the instrument cluster software, free of charge. Owner notification letters are expected to be mailed May 16, 2023. Owners may contact Porsche's customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is APA2.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.

  28. Front air spring strut retaining ring may dislodge

    Reported December 23, 2022Model years 2021–2022DVSA recall R/2023/00124 vehicles affected

    The front air spring struts may be incorrectly manufactured, allowing a retaining ring to dislodge and release air from the spring. The struts will be checked and replaced if necessary.

    Official DVSA recall text
    Component
    On the affected vehicles there is a possibility that both air-spring struts on the front axle were not manufactured according to specification.
    Defect
    On affected vehicles it is possible both air-spring struts on the front axle were not manufactured correctly.� This can cause the retaining ring on top of the strut to dislodge and release the air in the air spring.�
    Remedy
    Check the struts and replace if necessary.

  29. Suspension strut retaining ring may come loose

    Reported December 13, 2022Model years 2021NHTSA campaign 22V92100028 vehicles affected

    A retaining ring may come loose, dislodging the strut and causing air loss from the strut spring. This may impair handling and control and increase crash risk. Dealers will inspect the strut and replace it if needed, free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    SUSPENSION:FRONT:MACPHERSON STRUT
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2021 Taycan, Taycan 4S, Taycan Turbo S, Taycan 4 Cross Turismo, and Taycan 4S Cross Turismo vehicles. A retaining ring on top of the suspension strut may come loose, resulting in a dislodged strut and air loss from the strut spring.
    Consequence
    An air suspension strut failure may cause a loss of vehicle handling and control, increasing the risk of a crash.
    Remedy
    Dealers will inspect the suspension strut and replace it, if necessary, free of charge. Owner notification letters are expected to be mailed February 10, 2023. Owners may contact Porsche's customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is ANB8.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.

  30. Software may blank or flicker rearview camera image

    Reported June 8, 2022Model years 2020–2022NHTSA campaign 22V40400012,490 vehicles affected

    A software error may leave the centre screen and touch panel blank after ignition, or cause a flickering rearview camera image. This may obstruct the driver's view of camera-assisted functions and increase crash risk. Dealers will install new software, free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    BACK OVER PREVENTION: SENSING SYSTEM: CAMERA
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2020-2022 Taycan vehicles. A software error could cause the center screen (including rearview camera image) and the touch control panel remain to black directly after the ignition is activated. Also, the Real-Top-View (including rearview camera image) could display a flickering image. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard number 111, "Rear Visibility."
    Consequence
    A malfunctioning center screen or touch control panel may obstruct the driver's view of camera assisted driving functions, increasing the risk of a crash.
    Remedy
    Dealers will install new software, free of charge. Owner notification letters are expected to be mailed August 5, 2022. Owners may contact Porsche's customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is ANA6.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.

  31. Front seat wiring cover may be damaged

    Reported May 11, 2022Model years 2019–2021DVSA recall R/2022/13013,002 vehicles affected

    Adjusting a front seat may damage its wiring harness cover and pull it into the seat adjustment spindle. The wiring will be checked, taped and repaired if necessary.

    Official DVSA recall text
    Component
    THE FABRIC PROTECTIVE HOSE OF THE WIRING HARNESS OF THE FRONT SEATS CAN BE DAMAGED WHEN ADJUSTING THE SEAT IN THE LONGITUDINAL DIRECTION
    Defect
    There is a possibility that the fabric protective hose of the wiring harness of the front seats can be damaged when adjusting the seat in the longitudinal direction and subsequently be pulled into the drive spindle of the seat adjustment.
    Remedy
    On affected vehicles check the wiring harness of the front seats rework with textile tape and repair if necessary.

  32. Seat wiring harness may be damaged

    Reported April 26, 2022Model years 2020–2021NHTSA campaign 22V2780009,570 vehicles affected

    The seat wiring harness may be damaged during horizontal seat adjustment, potentially deactivating the air bags and increasing injury risk in a crash. Dealers will inspect and secure the harness, and repair damaged wires as needed, free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    SEATS
    Defect
    Porsche Cars of North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2020-2021 Taycan vehicles. The driver and passenger seat wire harness could become damaged during horizontal seat adjustment.
    Consequence
    A damaged seat wire harness may deactivate air bags, increasing the risk of injury in a crash.
    Remedy
    Dealers will inspect the seat wire harness for damage, add fabric tape to secure the harness, and repair damaged wires as necessary, free of charge. Owner notification letters were mailed July 22, 2022. Owners may contact Porsche's customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is ANA5.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.

  33. Seat belt wiring may obstruct child seat anchors

    Reported February 22, 2022Model years 2020–2021NHTSA campaign 22V1000005,305 vehicles affected

    The center seat belt buckle wiring may block access to the right rear child seat anchors, preventing proper installation of a child seat and increasing injury risk in a crash. Dealers will reroute and secure the wiring and replace a damaged buckle as needed, free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    SEAT BELTS:REAR/OTHER:ANCHORAGE
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2020-2021 Taycan vehicles equipped with an optional rear center seat. The center seat belt buckle wiring harness may obstruct access to the right rear seat lower child seat anchors, preventing a child seat from being properly secured. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard number 225, "Child Restraint Anchorage Systems."
    Consequence
    An improperly secured child seat increases the risk of injury during a crash.
    Remedy
    Dealers will reroute and secure the center rear seat belt buckle wiring harness and, as necessary, replace a damaged buckle, free of charge. Owner notification letters were mailed April 7, 2022. Owners may contact Porsche customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is ANA4.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.

  34. Suspension misalignment may cause tire wear

    Reported February 2, 2022Model years 2021NHTSA campaign 22V0520001 vehicle affected

    Misaligned front and rear suspension may cause premature or uneven tire wear and increase crash risk. Dealers will inspect and adjust the axles and replace affected tires free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    TIRES
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling one 2021 Taycan vehicle. The front and rear suspension may be misaligned.
    Consequence
    Suspension misalignment may cause premature or uneven tire wear, increasing the risk of a crash.
    Remedy
    Dealers will inspect the front and rear axles, adjust the alignment as necessary, and replace any prematurely or unevenly worn tires, free of charge. The owner notification letter was mailed March 10, 2022. Owners may contact Porsche customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is ANA2.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.

  35. Rear axle control arm bolts may be incorrectly installed

    Reported December 6, 2021Model years 2020DVSA recall R/2021/41015 vehicles affected

    The rear axle upper control arm screw connection may not meet specification. It will be replaced and correctly installed; chassis components will be checked for damage and replaced if visibly damaged.

    Official DVSA recall text
    Component
    THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT THE SCREW CONNECTION ON UPPER CONTROL ARMS OF THE REAR AXLE WERE NOT INSTALLED ACCORDING TO SPECIFICATION
    Defect
    There is a possibility that the screw connection on upper control arms of the rear axle were not installed according to specification.
    Remedy
    The screw connection must be replaced and installed according to the specification. In addition the chassis components must be checked for associated damage and replaced in the event of visible damage.

  36. Loose rear control arm connections may fail

    Reported November 19, 2021Model years 2020NHTSA campaign 21V91100035 vehicles affected

    Loose rear axle control arm connections may fail, causing loss of vehicle stability and increasing the risk of a crash. Dealers will replace the screw connections free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    SUSPENSION:REAR
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2020 Taycan vehicles. The front and rear upper control arm screw connections on the rear axle may be loose.
    Consequence
    A loose control arm connection may fail, causing a loss of vehicle stability and increasing the risk of a crash.
    Remedy
    Dealers will replace the screw connections, free of charge. Owner notification letters were expected to be mailed January 13, 2022. Owners may contact Porsche customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is AMC3.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.

  37. Hazard lights may activate in non-emergencies

    Reported October 13, 2021Model years 2020–2021NHTSA campaign 21V79400011,827 vehicles affected

    Automatic hazard lights may activate when there is no emergency, potentially confusing other drivers and increasing crash risk. Dealers will reprogram the hazard lights, free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    EXTERIOR LIGHTING:HAZARD FLASHING WARNING LIGHTS
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2020-2021 Taycan vehicles. The pre-collision automatic hazard lights may activate in non-emergency situations. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard number 108, "Lamps, Reflective Devices, and Associated Equipment."
    Consequence
    An activation of hazard lights in non-emergency situations could confuse other drivers, increasing the risk of a crash.
    Remedy
    Dealers will reprogram the hazard lights, free of charge. Owner notification letters were mailed December 2, 2021. Owners may contact Porsche customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is AMC1.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.

  38. Brake booster rod connection may detach

    Reported September 8, 2021Model years 2020–2021NHTSA campaign 21V69700011 vehicles affected

    The pressure input rod connection on the brake booster may loosen and detach, causing the brake pedal to fail and increasing the risk of a crash. Dealers will repair or replace the brake booster as necessary, free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:FOUNDATION COMPONENTS
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2020-2021 911 Carrera and Taycan vehicles. The pressure input rod connection on the brake booster may be loose and could detach.
    Consequence
    A detached pressure input rod will cause the brake pedal to fail, increasing the risk of a crash.
    Remedy
    Dealers will repair or replace the brake booster as necessary, free of charge. Owner notification letters were mailed October 28, 2021. Owners may contact Porsche customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is AMB9.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.

  39. Seat belt retractors may deactivate early

    Reported August 4, 2021Model years 2021NHTSA campaign 21V6080004,924 vehicles affected

    The seat belt automatic locking retractors may deactivate early, preventing a child restraint from securing properly and increasing injury risk in a crash. Dealers will inspect the seat belt assemblies and replace them if necessary, free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    SEAT BELTS:REAR/OTHER:RETRACTOR
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2021 911 Carrera Coupe, 911 Carrera S Coupe, 911 Carrera 4 Coupe, 911 Carrera 4S Coupe, 911 Turbo Coupe, 911 Turbo S Coupe, Panamera, Panamera 4 E-Hybrid, Panamera 4S, Panamera GTS, Panamera Turbo S, Taycan, Taycan 4S, Taycan Turbo, and Taycan Turbo S vehicles. The seat belt automatic locking retractors may deactivate early, which can prevent the child restraint system from securing properly. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard number 208, "Occupant Crash Protection."
    Consequence
    An unsecured child restraint system can increase the risk of injury during a crash.
    Remedy
    Dealers will inspect and replace the seat belt assemblies, as necessary, free of charge. Owner notification letters were mailed October 1, 2021. Owners may contact Porsche customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is AMB6.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.

  40. High-voltage power electronics may show an error

    Reported July 16, 2021Model years 2019–2021DVSA recall R/2021/2518,990 vehicles affected

    A software error may trigger a “Drive control disturbed - Park vehicle safely” warning in the instrument cluster. The high-voltage power electronics will be reprogrammed with corrected software.

    Official DVSA recall text
    Component
    INTERNAL SOFTWARE ERROR IN THE HIGH-VOLTAGE POWER ELECTRONICS
    Defect
    It is possible for the affected vehicles to display the warning message Drive control disturbed - Park vehicle safely in the instrument cluster.
    Remedy
    The high-voltage power electronics must be reprogrammed with corrected software.

  41. Monitoring software may shut down the powertrain

    Reported June 29, 2021Model years 2020–2021NHTSA campaign 21V48600010,373 vehicles affected

    Monitoring software may incorrectly detect a fault and shut down the powertrain, causing a loss of motive power and increasing crash risk. Dealers will reprogram the power electronics and engine control unit, free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE:ENGINE CONTROL MODULE (ECU/ECM):SOFTWARE
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2020-2021 Taycan Turbo, Taycan Turbo S, Taycan 4S, 2021 Taycan, Taycan Cross Turismo, Taycan Turbo S Cross Turismo, Taycan 4S Cross Turismo, and Taycan Turbo Cross Turismo vehicles. The monitoring software can incorrectly detect a fault and shutdown the power train, causing a loss of motive power.
    Consequence
    A loss of motive power increases the risk of a crash.
    Remedy
    Dealers will reprogram the power electronics and the engine control unit, free of charge. Owner notification letters were mailed July 30, 2021. Owners may contact Porsche customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is AMB5.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.nhtsa.gov.

  42. Right front lower trailing arm may be out of specification

    Reported June 16, 2021Model years 2021DVSA recall R/2021/176168 vehicles affected

    The right front lower trailing arm may not meet specifications. It will be replaced on affected vehicles.

    Official DVSA recall text
    Component
    THE LOWER TRAILING ARMS ON THE RIGHT FRONT AXLE MAY NOT MEET SPECIFICATIONS
    Defect
    There is a possibility that the right front lower trailing arms do not meet the required specifications.
    Remedy
    The lower trailing arm on the right front axle must be replaced on the affected vehicles.

  43. Front lower trailing arms may break

    Reported May 17, 2021Model years 2021NHTSA campaign 21V362000565 vehicles affected

    Front lower trailing arms that were not forged correctly may break, causing loss of vehicle control and increasing crash risk. Dealers will replace the arms free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    SUSPENSION:FRONT
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2021 Taycan, Panamera, Panamera Turbo S, Panamera GTS, Panamera 4, Panamera 4 Sport Turismo, Panamera 4 Executive, Panamera 4S Executive, Panamera 4S, Panamera 4S E-Hybrid, and Panamera 4 E-Hybrid vehicles. The front lower trailing arms were not forged correctly and may break.
    Consequence
    A broken front lower trailing arm may cause a loss of vehicle control, increasing the risk of a crash.
    Remedy
    Dealers will replace the front lower trailing arms, free of charge. Owner notification letters were mailed October 1, 2021. Owners may contact Porsche customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is AMB2.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.safercar.gov.

  44. Suspension connections may not be tightened correctly

    Reported March 24, 2021Model years 2020–2021DVSA recall R/2021/090332 vehicles affected

    Some suspension connections may not be tightened to specification because of insufficiently cut locknut threads. The affected joints will be replaced with new nuts and bolts and tightened to specification.

    Official DVSA recall text
    Component
    INDIVIDUAL THREADED CONNECTIONS AT THE VEHICLE'S SUSPENSION MIGHT NOT BE TIGHTENED TO THE SPECIFICATION DUE TO INSUFFICIENTLY CUT THREAD OF LOCKNUTS
    Defect
    Individual threaded connections at the vehicle's suspension might not be tightened to the specification due to insufficiently cut thread of locknuts.
    Remedy
    The affected screw joints must be replaced with a new nut and bolt and tightened to the original specification.

  45. Suspension components may loosen or detach

    Reported March 10, 2021Model years 2021NHTSA campaign 21V157000396 vehicles affected

    Some suspension components may not be tightened correctly and could loosen or detach, causing sudden loss of vehicle stability and control. Dealers will replace affected nuts and bolts and inspect surrounding parts, replacing damaged parts as needed, free of charge.

    Official NHTSA recall text
    Component
    SUSPENSION:CRITICAL FASTENERS
    Defect
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (Porsche) is recalling certain 2021 Porsche Taycan Turbo, Taycan Turbo S, Taycan, Taycan 4S, 911 Turbo S Coupe, Cayman, Cayman T, Cayman S, Cayman GT4, 911 Carrera Coupe, 911 Carrera S Coupe, 911 Carrera 4S Coupe, 911 Carrera 4S Targa, 911 Carrera Cabriolet, 911 Carrera S Cabriolet, 911 Carrera 4S Targa Heritage Design Edition, 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet, 911 Turbo Coupe, 911 Turbo Cabriolet, 911 Turbo S Cabriolet, 718 Spyder, and Boxster vehicles. Certain suspension components may not have been tightened correctly and can loosen.
    Consequence
    Loose suspension components may detach, causing a sudden loss of vehicle stability and control, and increasing the risk of a crash.
    Remedy
    Dealers will replace the affected suspension nuts and bolts. Dealers will also inspect surrounding components for damage, and replace any damaged parts as necessary. Repairs will be performed free of charge. Owner notification letters were mailed May 7, 2021. Owners may contact Porsche customer service at 1-800-767-7243. Porsche's number for this recall is AMA3.
    Notes
    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.safercar.gov.

Sources: NHTSA (US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration), DVSA (UK Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency) and the EU Safety Gate (European Commission) recall data. Each recall covers vehicles sold in that market; models sold elsewhere may differ.

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